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		<title>By: Discipline&#8217;s Tier 10 4-piece Joke &#124; World of Matticus</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/02/04/4-piece-tier-10-a-pleasant-surprise/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>Discipline&#8217;s Tier 10 4-piece Joke &#124; World of Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] at talesofapriest.com has a great write-up of how beneficial this was to Holy Priests.  Now, I have very little knowledge of Holy, since I&#8217;m primarily (and almost [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at talesofapriest.com has a great write-up of how beneficial this was to Holy Priests.  Now, I have very little knowledge of Holy, since I&#8217;m primarily (and almost [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why I think the T10 4 pc set Bonus Change Blows Goats &#124; Tales of a Priest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why I think the T10 4 pc set Bonus Change Blows Goats &#124; Tales of a Priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Shit (Pun intended). Derevka acquired T10 before I did and wrote a post about singing its praises for holy here. In a nutshell, the increase in his healing output was far and away above any expectations. I, in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Shit (Pun intended). Derevka acquired T10 before I did and wrote a post about singing its praises for holy here. In a nutshell, the increase in his healing output was far and away above any expectations. I, in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 3.3.3 &#8211; Priest Tier-10 4-Piece Healing Set Bonus &#171; Holy Nova NOW!</title>
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		<dc:creator>3.3.3 &#8211; Priest Tier-10 4-Piece Healing Set Bonus &#171; Holy Nova NOW!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] you manage to make use of each proc and this is not a hard thing. Derevka did a nice post about in 4 Piece Tier 10 – A Pleasant Surprise and I totally agree with him. In same time this second bonus made to look apealing the first one as [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you manage to make use of each proc and this is not a hard thing. Derevka did a nice post about in 4 Piece Tier 10 – A Pleasant Surprise and I totally agree with him. In same time this second bonus made to look apealing the first one as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm&#8230;.4p T10&#8230;..Priest &#171; Orangeslice &#62; Other Sodas</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmm&#8230;.4p T10&#8230;..Priest &#171; Orangeslice &#62; Other Sodas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] http://talesofapriest.com/?p=230    Makes a very good point on the T10 4P bonus.   Looking on the surface it maybe very &#8220;meh&#8221; but for holy priests and disc priests alike, a chance to reset CoH and Penance is very tempting. My own opinion is still up in the air as I still only have the T10 2P bonus.   [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://talesofapriest.com/?p=230" rel="nofollow">http://talesofapriest.com/?p=230</a>    Makes a very good point on the T10 4P bonus.   Looking on the surface it maybe very &#8220;meh&#8221; but for holy priests and disc priests alike, a chance to reset CoH and Penance is very tempting. My own opinion is still up in the air as I still only have the T10 2P bonus.   [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Holy Raid Healing Batman! &#124; Tales of a Priest</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/02/04/4-piece-tier-10-a-pleasant-surprise/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>Holy Raid Healing Batman! &#124; Tales of a Priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 4-Piece bonus proc, you’ll have to wait for the CD to complete before you can heal again. (see my earlier post for my thoughts on the 4pc) Let’s examine a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 4-Piece bonus proc, you’ll have to wait for the CD to complete before you can heal again. (see my earlier post for my thoughts on the 4pc) Let’s examine a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Derevka</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/02/04/4-piece-tier-10-a-pleasant-surprise/#comment-628</link>
		<dc:creator>Derevka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great points Blakkeyez. God I love when blog post comments turn into great discussion! Its what keeps me doing this! Love it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points Blakkeyez. God I love when blog post comments turn into great discussion! Its what keeps me doing this! Love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Blakkeyez</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/02/04/4-piece-tier-10-a-pleasant-surprise/#comment-627</link>
		<dc:creator>Blakkeyez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Derevka: I do go ‘bwha” when priests say “but I dont use Flash Heal, I use renew”. It makes me wonder what they are doing with their SOL procs.

I go &quot;hawab&quot; anytime a player isn&#039;t willing to adapt playstyle to what content they are doing or gear they are wearing. Is it really that fun to roll renews nothing will have you try something else for a change? I&#039;ve been playing for long enough to have seen group rotations to conserve mana, priests in demand for their cc abilities, 23/38/0 with improved Divine Spirit, Greater Heal stopcasting on tanks, spirit buffed, spirit nerfed, spirit buffed again, Circle of Healing spam, downranking heals to be able to cast longer, serpendity-hasted prayer of healing, renewspam, discipline as pvp-healers, disipline as tankhealers, discipline as raidhealers... I could write a novel about the changes. I admit it would likely be a not very fancy read but still. One of the reasons I stick to my priest is that it has been in constant evolution. And I love it. I think everyone should try a change every now and then. it will do you good. Going back if it fails only cost a maximum of fifty gold at the trainer.


Continuing my subject from before. If you stumble here and say to yourself &quot;but hey, what about my beginner ilevel 232 tiers then?&quot;. Would it be worth going for the lowest level T10 over them. There is a lot of badges that need to be collected from heroics to get them. I&#039;m not as certain on this as I haven&#039;t tried them in action in a similarly geared 10-man or anything and I haven&#039;t been forced to compare stats on them.

The easy answer would be that if you can get into ICC10 to get the badges faster than just by running heroics then you probably already sport some ToC25 normal gear or similar and you are facing another issue to begin with - that the lowest T10 is more often than not downgrades from the normal 25-man T9. It may actually be beneficial to try to get into some 25-man ToC pugs while saving up frost emblems to get the T10 or some other higher level frost emblem gear.

This is something that is really annoying with the healer priest T10. To maximize your gear you would want to aquire gear from badges that will be kept in your bags until you can upgrade them with dropped tokens. At that point you will then find yourself in demand of crafted gear and other stuff that keeps some of your newly aquired upgraded T10 in your bags until you can get your hands on the tokens that drops inthe heroic version. Now, try to convince that raid leader that you need those tokens because otherwise you won&#039;t be able to upgrade your gear in the heroics later on...

Back on track, to T9 or to T10 at lower item levels... since the T10 setbonuses won&#039;t do as much for you at the content you are likely doing I&#039;d say go for the 25-man T9 first and save up those frost emblems. If you run with a guild that you can forsee will hand you some tokens to upgrade your T10 pretty soon then feel free to pick the tier pieces otherwise go straight for the itemlevel 264 emblem gear. 

Also do yourself a favor and just skip over the lowest level T9 unless you already have them because they aren&#039;t really worth spending your hard earned badges on anymore.

I&#039;m ranting about gear again so I will leave it there... :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derevka: I do go ‘bwha” when priests say “but I dont use Flash Heal, I use renew”. It makes me wonder what they are doing with their SOL procs.</p>
<p>I go &#8220;hawab&#8221; anytime a player isn&#8217;t willing to adapt playstyle to what content they are doing or gear they are wearing. Is it really that fun to roll renews nothing will have you try something else for a change? I&#8217;ve been playing for long enough to have seen group rotations to conserve mana, priests in demand for their cc abilities, 23/38/0 with improved Divine Spirit, Greater Heal stopcasting on tanks, spirit buffed, spirit nerfed, spirit buffed again, Circle of Healing spam, downranking heals to be able to cast longer, serpendity-hasted prayer of healing, renewspam, discipline as pvp-healers, disipline as tankhealers, discipline as raidhealers&#8230; I could write a novel about the changes. I admit it would likely be a not very fancy read but still. One of the reasons I stick to my priest is that it has been in constant evolution. And I love it. I think everyone should try a change every now and then. it will do you good. Going back if it fails only cost a maximum of fifty gold at the trainer.</p>
<p>Continuing my subject from before. If you stumble here and say to yourself &#8220;but hey, what about my beginner ilevel 232 tiers then?&#8221;. Would it be worth going for the lowest level T10 over them. There is a lot of badges that need to be collected from heroics to get them. I&#8217;m not as certain on this as I haven&#8217;t tried them in action in a similarly geared 10-man or anything and I haven&#8217;t been forced to compare stats on them.</p>
<p>The easy answer would be that if you can get into ICC10 to get the badges faster than just by running heroics then you probably already sport some ToC25 normal gear or similar and you are facing another issue to begin with &#8211; that the lowest T10 is more often than not downgrades from the normal 25-man T9. It may actually be beneficial to try to get into some 25-man ToC pugs while saving up frost emblems to get the T10 or some other higher level frost emblem gear.</p>
<p>This is something that is really annoying with the healer priest T10. To maximize your gear you would want to aquire gear from badges that will be kept in your bags until you can upgrade them with dropped tokens. At that point you will then find yourself in demand of crafted gear and other stuff that keeps some of your newly aquired upgraded T10 in your bags until you can get your hands on the tokens that drops inthe heroic version. Now, try to convince that raid leader that you need those tokens because otherwise you won&#8217;t be able to upgrade your gear in the heroics later on&#8230;</p>
<p>Back on track, to T9 or to T10 at lower item levels&#8230; since the T10 setbonuses won&#8217;t do as much for you at the content you are likely doing I&#8217;d say go for the 25-man T9 first and save up those frost emblems. If you run with a guild that you can forsee will hand you some tokens to upgrade your T10 pretty soon then feel free to pick the tier pieces otherwise go straight for the itemlevel 264 emblem gear. </p>
<p>Also do yourself a favor and just skip over the lowest level T9 unless you already have them because they aren&#8217;t really worth spending your hard earned badges on anymore.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m ranting about gear again so I will leave it there&#8230; <img src='http://talesofapriest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Derevka</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/02/04/4-piece-tier-10-a-pleasant-surprise/#comment-626</link>
		<dc:creator>Derevka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point Blakkeyez. However, I did break my 2pc 258 for a mixed 4pc of 264/251. I do sincerely feel that even though the stats were a bit different, the 4pc for Holy was totally worth it. My effective heal (over the POM bonus) was far more improved. (see earlier comment). I broke 2pc 258 only when I had 4pc T10. Really loving it... 

I do go &#039;bwha&quot; when priests say &quot;but I dont use Flash Heal, I use renew&quot;. It makes me wonder what they are doing with their SOL procs. Mmmm raid healing goodness- 3 GCDs with 13 targets healed. yes please. While it is RNG... it makes me really wonder. 

With proper CD management, and/or a Power Aura the increase in your effective healing as holy with COH goes up notably... and when I&#039;ve tank healed as Disc....especially on Heroic ICC10 (this week Heroic ICC25) the tanks get ROCKED... so any additional burst healing on them will be appreciated. 

The only downside Ive found is that 4pc brings your crit up higher, so you&#039;ll need strong other items (or gems) to balance haste where you want it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Blakkeyez. However, I did break my 2pc 258 for a mixed 4pc of 264/251. I do sincerely feel that even though the stats were a bit different, the 4pc for Holy was totally worth it. My effective heal (over the POM bonus) was far more improved. (see earlier comment). I broke 2pc 258 only when I had 4pc T10. Really loving it&#8230; </p>
<p>I do go &#8216;bwha&#8221; when priests say &#8220;but I dont use Flash Heal, I use renew&#8221;. It makes me wonder what they are doing with their SOL procs. Mmmm raid healing goodness- 3 GCDs with 13 targets healed. yes please. While it is RNG&#8230; it makes me really wonder. </p>
<p>With proper CD management, and/or a Power Aura the increase in your effective healing as holy with COH goes up notably&#8230; and when I&#8217;ve tank healed as Disc&#8230;.especially on Heroic ICC10 (this week Heroic ICC25) the tanks get ROCKED&#8230; so any additional burst healing on them will be appreciated. </p>
<p>The only downside Ive found is that 4pc brings your crit up higher, so you&#8217;ll need strong other items (or gems) to balance haste where you want it.</p>
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		<title>By: Blakkeyez</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/02/04/4-piece-tier-10-a-pleasant-surprise/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator>Blakkeyez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What seems to get lost in every post on different blogs when someone tries to decide wether it&#039;s worth skipping the T9 setbonus for the T10 is that it depends greatly on what ilevel tier sets we are talking about.

If you run with the normal 25-man T9 (ilevel 245) then the increase in stats from the offset ilevel 264 items outweighs in almost all cases (sanctified T10, crafted gear, badges gear). This would be the case for anyone that didn&#039;t have heroic mode Anub&#039;arak on farm.

Many higher end raiding priests have 2 pieces of  the heroic version T9 (ilevel 258) though and keeping them versus the &quot;Sanctified&quot; upgraded T10 (ilevel 264) i where it gets tricky. The heroic version T9 is strong enough to not fall that much behind while still providing the excellent setbonus, especially on the pieces that have less valuable upgrade options.

Then again when you eventually get the hands on the heroic version of T10 eventually most of the tier pieces are best in slot anyway and the setbonus comes naturally, but then again... you need to beat the lich king first :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What seems to get lost in every post on different blogs when someone tries to decide wether it&#8217;s worth skipping the T9 setbonus for the T10 is that it depends greatly on what ilevel tier sets we are talking about.</p>
<p>If you run with the normal 25-man T9 (ilevel 245) then the increase in stats from the offset ilevel 264 items outweighs in almost all cases (sanctified T10, crafted gear, badges gear). This would be the case for anyone that didn&#8217;t have heroic mode Anub&#8217;arak on farm.</p>
<p>Many higher end raiding priests have 2 pieces of  the heroic version T9 (ilevel 258) though and keeping them versus the &#8220;Sanctified&#8221; upgraded T10 (ilevel 264) i where it gets tricky. The heroic version T9 is strong enough to not fall that much behind while still providing the excellent setbonus, especially on the pieces that have less valuable upgrade options.</p>
<p>Then again when you eventually get the hands on the heroic version of T10 eventually most of the tier pieces are best in slot anyway and the setbonus comes naturally, but then again&#8230; you need to beat the lich king first <img src='http://talesofapriest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Avalonna</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/02/04/4-piece-tier-10-a-pleasant-surprise/#comment-610</link>
		<dc:creator>Avalonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m Disc for the majority of the time, and for the majority of that time, I am a tank healer - disc as a raid healer is highly viable, but I haven&#039;t spent enough time doing that to give an &quot;official&quot; opinion. The LK fight does suggest it&#039;s still worth it - the penance/flash/penance flash combo was hot. I would imagine fights in TOTGC would be too, but we haven&#039;t been back since I acquired the 4pc. I&#039;ll have more data on this play style for my Disc POV post.

In some of the later ICC fights, and ICC hard modes (10 &amp; 25), the tanks get hit hard &amp; the raid takes a shit ton of damage. The 4 pc set bonus, as derevka mentioned, does proc well more than the math would lead you to believe - it&#039;s not uncommon for strings or 3, 4 or even 5 or more procs on this. It makes me all giggly.

I&#039;ve found even if there&#039;s a break in heavy damage on the tank at the time, there is always someone in the raid that could use a little penance and DA lovin&#039;, and this is especially nice in ten mans.

I&#039;m still accumulating the data for a more official post, but as it stands for a tank healer, it&#039;s worth it. I&#039;m going to say it&#039;s worth it for a raid healer as well.

The two piece is still weak - in theory it sounds good, but after log dissection, it ranks high on overheal. It&#039;s pretty nice on Dreamwalker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Disc for the majority of the time, and for the majority of that time, I am a tank healer &#8211; disc as a raid healer is highly viable, but I haven&#8217;t spent enough time doing that to give an &#8220;official&#8221; opinion. The LK fight does suggest it&#8217;s still worth it &#8211; the penance/flash/penance flash combo was hot. I would imagine fights in TOTGC would be too, but we haven&#8217;t been back since I acquired the 4pc. I&#8217;ll have more data on this play style for my Disc POV post.</p>
<p>In some of the later ICC fights, and ICC hard modes (10 &amp; 25), the tanks get hit hard &amp; the raid takes a shit ton of damage. The 4 pc set bonus, as derevka mentioned, does proc well more than the math would lead you to believe &#8211; it&#8217;s not uncommon for strings or 3, 4 or even 5 or more procs on this. It makes me all giggly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found even if there&#8217;s a break in heavy damage on the tank at the time, there is always someone in the raid that could use a little penance and DA lovin&#8217;, and this is especially nice in ten mans.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still accumulating the data for a more official post, but as it stands for a tank healer, it&#8217;s worth it. I&#8217;m going to say it&#8217;s worth it for a raid healer as well.</p>
<p>The two piece is still weak &#8211; in theory it sounds good, but after log dissection, it ranks high on overheal. It&#8217;s pretty nice on Dreamwalker.</p>
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