Comments on: Priests and Valithria Dreamwalker

By: That’s Noooo how you eat Porridge – umm Heal Dreamwalker « Pugnacious Priest's Warcraft Blog

Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:08:41 +0000

[...] I’ve been reading since puts priests in their best place outside the portals yet we sent the two in as holy ( he was disc for some fights) and kept the Shammy outside, It [...]

By: Avalonna

Avalonna — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:11:41 +0000

Raid healing out of the portals can be more draining as holy than as disc. If your DPS is doing their jobs, raid damage should be minimal. If the adds are not being focused, with priorities on the right ones, anyone will run dry.

That’s not saying you CAN’T do it as holy. Its nice to have a holy simply for the GS application. Watch the mana voids, use Aboms for fiend with HoH (channel it with others if you can), bug a feral/boomy for innervates, or get the shaman to use mana tide.

More than likely, the ‘how to do it’ just clicked for the raid after a few attempts, and has no bearing on your ability to heal.

By: yara

yara — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:04:11 +0000

I am still wondering if putting me as a holy priest in the portals was a mistake.
Our shaman is so much better than me at raid heals and no matter how fast I push the buttons, i just can’t get there, and all the time i feel so much safer when she’s around. But I know i do my job well, considering all

God, how much I wanted the dragon, but I so much more just wanted for us to succeed….

So when I tried raid healing, I totally totally failed..just couldn’t stay alive, or ran out of mana in no time.
Then when I was sent into the portals, we got it down after a few tries, but again, I am scared this just means i”m only a fail raid healer, and by no means a better healer on this boss.

I still can’t see where i was making my mistakes on raid heals, this is so disappointing…

By: Hellz

Hellz — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:22:38 +0000

Thanks so much for the quick reply.

By: Derevka

Derevka — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:37:00 +0000

Once per min. She gets a Weakened Spirit debuff when it’s cast on her for 60 secs. So a Glyphed Holy Priest can buff her every CD. I did last night.

Your new guild is wrong in their logic and can buff her more often.

By: Hellz

Hellz — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:19:40 +0000

I recently joined a new guild and the healing lead insists that you can only GS Valithria once during the entire encounter!

Is this something that was recently changed, in the guild I came from we and one priest GS on CD since there is a one GS per minute mechanic built into the fight.

Can someone confirm or deny that we can now only GS once?

By: Entrop

Entrop — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:08:18 +0000

@Derevka

Yeah my comment was in no means to dis anyone or how most people do the strat, i prolly should have clarified it, but it just gives more options to find out what is best for each guild. We dont log our 10 mans but it would be very similar, 1 person may go down and take every portal. Something that does work though, the DK VB then beacon to the boss as well as feral druids with the talent to get healed for more works then beacon to the boss.

And in both 10/25 try to chain as much GS as possible. Also GS + Divine Hymn Also stacks. But yes i do agree at the fact that priests are the weakest to go and grab the buff.

The one thing about our strat though is that we pump a of mana back into our pallies. I.E. Innervate, Hymn of Hope + Plea, Mana Tides

By: Firecroch

Firecroch — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:32:48 +0000

I’m not a pro at reading logs. I’m assuming the dips in the pic are when the healers go into the portals? And the 2 lines fluctuating at the bottom are 2 healers who are staying outside?

By: Joe Ego

Joe Ego — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:26:01 +0000

We’re running 3 in portals & 3 out. 2 or 3 of the outs are often priests. We do our GS before the 1st portal and then on exit of portals 2 and 4 and 6 (yes, we get 6 portals). Heroism is on portal 4, though we have coordination issues with optimizing overlap.

Entrop’s setup is working because they have 8 healers and 7 of them are doing 80%+ of their healing to Valithria. The output from the 2 shaman (taking every portal), however, is still the key to their success. They can’t average 20k HPS for the whole fight without the +healing buff.

Compare to my log (25normal) where the 3 outside healers are only doing around half of their output to the dragon. Obviously there are other factors: our dps probably take a lot more damage, our overall gearing is lower, etc. We’re also not flying as a group in the portals which makes it a little too crowded with 4 people, so we can improve there.

One problem with my log is I lose a LOT of data when I’m in portals. I need to get a partner outside to log & combine with mine.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/475id32uh1a1rvpr/sum/healingDone/?s=8707&e=9082

And, for the fun of it, the vid from the same kill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnGLGMlbmDg

By: Emoose

Emoose — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:10:02 +0000

I’ve played healers, different types, for over 5 years. It’s not that I am bad at playing DPSers, I have been a very skilled Moonkin / Enhancement shaman at specific moments through my raiding career, but I dislike the whole competition idea where, in order to perform, you have to somewhat ride the meters. Now, dont get me wrong, dealing competitive DPS is not all there is to a DPS class, but in the end of the day, if you do 5k DPS without standing in fire, and if another DPSer does 10k DPS without standing in fire, you kind of suck.

I rolled a healer to put the competition aside and, instead, challenge my reaction time (which I believe is my strong point).

I’m perfectly fine with the fact that priests may not be the ideal solution to Big Dargon healing. I’m loving my raid members spiking up and down, eating the floor, face tanking mobs. That’s what catches my interest.