Comments on: Re-Revisiting Power Infusion in Wrath

By: I Eat Crayons

I Eat Crayons — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:04:40 +0000

OMG i love your PI tell. I’m changing mine from “SUPER PEW PEW TIME! Power Infusion Cast on you!” to yours.

By: mp

mp — Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:31:04 +0000

I read somewhere and I can’t find it online. But the post I read said that because PI doesn’t stack with bloodlust/heroism, if you cast PI right before the lust/hero fades, the remainder of PI maintains 30% haste instead of 20%.

I’d give spriests that are trolls PI, especially ones that are engineers. Between -lust, hyperspeed glove enchant, potions of speeds, black magic, bzerking and the potential of getting power infusion, I can maintain a haste buff for most a fight.

By: Bartol

Bartol — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 02:00:03 +0000

Okay, I misunderstood the ‘externally applied’ thing to the point that I didn’t think as far as categorising IV and EM as internally applied (or categorising them any further than as ‘haste buffs’, for that matter).

Thank you for clearing this one up.

I’m lazy as well, so I’m not going to dig deeper into the PI-AP thing. I think in this case it’s enough to know that PI doesn’t stack with AP.

By: Avalonna

Avalonna — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:09:42 +0000

Take a look back at the first section, where I discussed what it DOES and DOES NOT stack with. You can only have ONE externally applied haste boost – since PI and BL/Hero are both considered those, they do not stack.

IV,EM are internally applied by the player, therefor those DO stack.

Now, technically AP should also stack under these guidelines, but it’s the odd man out. I’ve never looked too in depth, but I’ve heard 2 theories 1) When PI was a pure Damage increase, it was an OP combo and it was intentionally broken and left. 2)They didn’t want the mana cost increase to be canceled out by PI’s reduction. As to which one, if either, is the truth, would require more digging and I’m REALLY lazy.

By: Bartol

Bartol — Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:07:28 +0000

Very nice posts. I’m thinking of re-directing our 10man’s priest to this (she specced disc only recently … to give it a try, I guess).

Now what I am still confused about (and you may or may not know the answer to this):
Why does PI not stack with Heroism/Bloodlust, but with Icy Veins and Elemental Mastery? And why not with Arcane Power?

I have several – quite leaky – theories (just thinking about it).

Maybe it does stack with Icy Veins, but not Arcane Power because it used to be a damage increase (“back in my days…”) and i still ‘filed’ as one? But that would not explain why it shouldn’t stack with Heroism/Bloodlust.

Maybe it does not stack with Arcane Power because the one spell (AP) increases the mana cost of the mage’s spells and the other (IP) reduces mana cost? That would at least explain the instackability (TM by me if not otherwise claimed before! ) of the spells, but still leaves the question of compatibility with Icy Veins/Elemental Mastery, but no Heroism/Bloodlust.

Maybe you can clear that up for me.

Keep up the good work, and don’t let yourself be teased by Derevka too much. *giggles as he thinks of the Priest Round Table*

By: Avalonna

Avalonna — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:18:32 +0000

We usually run a 2 disc combo on H LK, but sometimes one depending on the makeup that night. However, usually by gear alone (and of course your talents), you are sitting at or beyond the GCD cap for your shields – the PI is essentially wasted by doing that. Even the mana reduction has little benefit, for if you have your shields adjusted for the buff, you should be taking full advantage of rapture and not be in danger of running out of mana. See some of the posts on the LK and bubble spam we’ve done here.

H LK still has a not so slouchy enrage, even at 30% – give it to the dps!

By: Madwand

Madwand — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:07:29 +0000

Thanks for the re-visit. We just started on Heroic LK (10) so changing my off-spec shady to disco seemed like a logical step. During the raid I asked who wished to be PId, several times. Could you believe there were no takers? None! So I decided to go with Elemental, since le Lock wasn’t sure what to do with it. When the Elemental went Resto, the Lock just seemed like the next best choice and now I’m reading he might actually have been a better choice all along.
Again, thanks for this post! And feel free to do some more disco re-visits; you will have at least one appreciative priest reader.

By: Xeppe

Xeppe — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:41:06 +0000

If you’re the only Disco in a 25 fight where having as many of the raid shielded as possible is important (P1 & P2 LK for example) – PI on yourself will give you max coverage. And make you look pretty.

By: Avalonna

Avalonna — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:34:55 +0000

Try this. Don’t forget to adjust for your current set up and Screen size/resolution – I play on a 30″ WD so it might look a bit weird. Also, I use my own custom sound files, so make sure you select your own if it doesn’t default to something. I also checked off the “Only in Raid” setting before exporting, so you might want to turn that back on. It’s on the first tab, Activation settings.

Border:

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Text:

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By: Emmalise

Emmalise — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:51:25 +0000

I’m working on getting the hang of Power Auras, would you mind hitting me up with an export of your PI CD?