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	<title>Comments on: Disc at 80 at 4.0 and a Bunch of Other Numbers</title>
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		<title>By: Avalonna</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/09/28/disc-at-80-at-4-0-and-a-bunch-of-other-numbers/#comment-9880</link>
		<dc:creator>Avalonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 20:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really not discouraged. In 2 weeks alone we&#039;ve see so many tweaks &amp; nerfs, until we actually get to a live, level 85 end game and can experience it, I&#039;m going to refrain from comment.

I really don&#039;t mind being a tank healer as disc - I&#039;ve pretty much done it most of this expansion. But all I can do is speculate on roles, and I hate to do that. Obviously, we&#039;ll be pretty vocal when we get to end game, but I&#039;m not going to get excited. Yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really not discouraged. In 2 weeks alone we&#8217;ve see so many tweaks &#038; nerfs, until we actually get to a live, level 85 end game and can experience it, I&#8217;m going to refrain from comment.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t mind being a tank healer as disc &#8211; I&#8217;ve pretty much done it most of this expansion. But all I can do is speculate on roles, and I hate to do that. Obviously, we&#8217;ll be pretty vocal when we get to end game, but I&#8217;m not going to get excited. Yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Aliahna</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/09/28/disc-at-80-at-4-0-and-a-bunch-of-other-numbers/#comment-9873</link>
		<dc:creator>Aliahna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know about the rest of you but I am pretty discouraged with what I have seen with healers coming out of the 85 raid testing videos.  Holy Paladins are killing everyone with their AoE and single target healing.

It&#039;s so funny because on the healing forums there are so many paladins complaining....it worked though, they keep getting buffed and they are like healing God&#039;s again in Cataclysm.  Most of the raids don&#039;t even have a disc priest in them, and if they do, it appears to be as a tank healer.

What are your thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about the rest of you but I am pretty discouraged with what I have seen with healers coming out of the 85 raid testing videos.  Holy Paladins are killing everyone with their AoE and single target healing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so funny because on the healing forums there are so many paladins complaining&#8230;.it worked though, they keep getting buffed and they are like healing God&#8217;s again in Cataclysm.  Most of the raids don&#8217;t even have a disc priest in them, and if they do, it appears to be as a tank healer.</p>
<p>What are your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Aliahna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aliahna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 23:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ava, I am so sorry to hear that you have been ill...I sure hope you start feeling better soon.

Don&#039;t worry too much about the vengeance issue, despite some very vocal tanks in the tanking and healing wow forums, it looks like it is not the HUGE issue these guys were making it out to be.  Yes, while our shields do appear to slow down the stacking of Vengeance it only really does so to a small degree.  The general consensus of my tanks is that it&#039;s to a huge deal but I will wait to shield them for a second or two regardless.

I found a blue post from GC and it appears to be a bug anyway.  Our shields are not supposed to affect Vengeance.

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26435173840/not-understanding-vengeance

Read the one from Ghostcrawler on 8/9/10 at 15:47:22, beginning of the second paragraph.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ava, I am so sorry to hear that you have been ill&#8230;I sure hope you start feeling better soon.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry too much about the vengeance issue, despite some very vocal tanks in the tanking and healing wow forums, it looks like it is not the HUGE issue these guys were making it out to be.  Yes, while our shields do appear to slow down the stacking of Vengeance it only really does so to a small degree.  The general consensus of my tanks is that it&#8217;s to a huge deal but I will wait to shield them for a second or two regardless.</p>
<p>I found a blue post from GC and it appears to be a bug anyway.  Our shields are not supposed to affect Vengeance.</p>
<p><a href="http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26435173840/not-understanding-vengeance" rel="nofollow">http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26435173840/not-understanding-vengeance</a></p>
<p>Read the one from Ghostcrawler on 8/9/10 at 15:47:22, beginning of the second paragraph.</p>
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		<title>By: Parishealton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parishealton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shields have been fixed - generally 2.5k ish lower than what we have been used to.  Apparently we all had the 30% ICC buff wether we were in ICC or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shields have been fixed &#8211; generally 2.5k ish lower than what we have been used to.  Apparently we all had the 30% ICC buff wether we were in ICC or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Avalonna</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/09/28/disc-at-80-at-4-0-and-a-bunch-of-other-numbers/#comment-9613</link>
		<dc:creator>Avalonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 05:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds exactly like what I do. I&#039;ll take a look.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds exactly like what I do. I&#8217;ll take a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Bellanorra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bellanorra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 03:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The difference I&#039;m seeing was on combat log shield not in raid (I wasn&#039;t very clear sorry) and my guild is working on HLK progression and I am the bubblebot sadly :( For all other fights I am helping tank heal since we only raid with one holy paladin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference I&#8217;m seeing was on combat log shield not in raid (I wasn&#8217;t very clear sorry) and my guild is working on HLK progression and I am the bubblebot sadly <img src='http://talesofapriest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  For all other fights I am helping tank heal since we only raid with one holy paladin.</p>
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		<title>By: Avalonna</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/09/28/disc-at-80-at-4-0-and-a-bunch-of-other-numbers/#comment-9598</link>
		<dc:creator>Avalonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 01:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Bellanorra

The overall values were intended to be lower, but the ICC buff was not calculating our shields correctly. Icc is clear for us, and I can&#039;t try a ten man now, so I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s fixed. Atonement has been fixed, thank god. And I can&#039;t confirm, but does it seem like it hits the lowest health target?

I&#039;m at a toss up on Mastery for H LK. It seemed that the mastery addition would have been useful for the infest, but that was with the incorrect buff translation. Point for point, reforging for haste would be more beneficial if you are not doing H LK. Unless all you&#039;re doing is shield spamming, but now&#039;s the time to break that habit. I&#039;ll have a Haste And You for Disc post next week.

@Aliahna
No, I haven&#039;t heard anything. I&#039;ve been sort of laid up all week being sick and pathetic. I&#039;ll definitely look into it for you and get back to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bellanorra</p>
<p>The overall values were intended to be lower, but the ICC buff was not calculating our shields correctly. Icc is clear for us, and I can&#8217;t try a ten man now, so I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s fixed. Atonement has been fixed, thank god. And I can&#8217;t confirm, but does it seem like it hits the lowest health target?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m at a toss up on Mastery for H LK. It seemed that the mastery addition would have been useful for the infest, but that was with the incorrect buff translation. Point for point, reforging for haste would be more beneficial if you are not doing H LK. Unless all you&#8217;re doing is shield spamming, but now&#8217;s the time to break that habit. I&#8217;ll have a Haste And You for Disc post next week.</p>
<p>@Aliahna<br />
No, I haven&#8217;t heard anything. I&#8217;ve been sort of laid up all week being sick and pathetic. I&#8217;ll definitely look into it for you and get back to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Bellanorra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bellanorra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 01:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since the small patch a few days ago has anyone noticed different combat log numbers on your shields? Mine appear to have gone down quite a bit and I have actually reforged for more mastery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the small patch a few days ago has anyone noticed different combat log numbers on your shields? Mine appear to have gone down quite a bit and I have actually reforged for more mastery.</p>
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		<title>By: Aliahna</title>
		<link>http://talesofapriest.com/2010/09/28/disc-at-80-at-4-0-and-a-bunch-of-other-numbers/#comment-9475</link>
		<dc:creator>Aliahna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ava, what are you hearing about our shields and other absorbs negatively affecting Vengeance for the tanks?  Apparently it&#039;s becoming quite a hot topic on the tanking and healing forums.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ava, what are you hearing about our shields and other absorbs negatively affecting Vengeance for the tanks?  Apparently it&#8217;s becoming quite a hot topic on the tanking and healing forums.</p>
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		<title>By: Parishealton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parishealton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Atonement seems ok today but im also getting random DA procs from Holy Fire...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atonement seems ok today but im also getting random DA procs from Holy Fire&#8230;</p>
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