Comments on: Raiding Holy Priest Specs – Redux

By: Redneckmedic

Redneckmedic — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:54:15 +0000

Thank you very much for the well detailed and thought out post… I just wanted to ask what difference the crit cange from 50% to 100% is going to have on stat weights…

Also.. I happen to enjoy being above the 12.5% haste mark {raid buffed} and in fact am about 13.3% pre buff atm… i find it incredibly useful in some of the Heroic Z’s and raid situations where intense damage is coming in.

By: Nemockulous

Nemockulous — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 03:31:25 +0000

So I just got grilled on my talent spec in a perspective guild, specifically, about the renew talents. I guess a good majority of people out there aren’t seeing the potential in dropping the 3 points out of renew talents. *sigh*

By: Derevka

Derevka — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:35:40 +0000

Theres been some changes since then, costs changed; as well as I’m in full Heroic progression. I’ll try to make an update once 4.1 drops.

By: Kell

Kell — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:31:23 +0000

No talk since Jan. I looked at your armory and the spec you outlined above is no longer being used by you. Any reasons? Looks like you’re back to using Renew.

By: Apostle

Apostle — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 02:44:18 +0000

Errr I mean to say ‘Power Word: Serenity’… it was late

By: Apostle

Apostle — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:33:53 +0000

I’d just like to say that I think its amazing every time I read about using the ‘Heal’ spell everywhere… I NEVER cast it unless I hit Chakra beforehand to proc Power Word: Serendipity. This usually results in shock to whoever I’m directing the comment to, but believe me I’m equally flabbergasted that it gets used at all by anyone.
It takes WAY to long to cast even with talent points spent to reduce cast time, and it does virtually nothing in the way of healing. If I’m single-target healing, then I’m dropping Greater Heals, Serendipity, and the target also has a renew with a PoM bouncing around somewhere. Frankly I find it amazing when I read that it has wide-spread use amongst healers… perhaps other healing classes / specs need rely on it, but as a Holy Priest I say its only function is to proc Power Word: Serendipity.

And no, I don’t run out of mana either.

You guys who use Heal are daredevils – I know I’d rather drop a 30k heal than a 10k one or whatever it is Heal heals for, when both take a similar cast time.

By: vertigo12

vertigo12 — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:59:50 +0000

One way of fully maximizing the fullest potential of your character is by getting know him/her, what he’s/she’s capable of and what’s not. This MMORPG is an extension of our reality since what applies in our lives is adapted in WoW, that is the only person to know what are your capable is to know your personality.

“726 Gold.

What’s that? The total amount of Gold I have spent since hitting 85 tuning just my Holy Spec. That is eleven 66 gold respecs. Could it be me being fickle? Yes– and let’s be real here: I can be fickle and indescisive. (Just look at the total gold spent in the Barbershop and the total numbre of race changes I’ve done!) Joking aside, it is me testing out different spec options and seeing which seem to work best for me and my raid group. As a general rule, there is very little flexibility in the ‘bookends of our spec’.”
Honestly I don’t believe this actions are works of a fool but rather it is a means to get-to-know-yourself even more activity. Experimentation is a valid way of testing whether which works and which doesn’t.”

What I could suggest to others is that you should not be afraid in exploring the vast capability that us priest have. Experiment with your spells and try to use them at different situations. Then we can learn when is the most efficient time to use it. Play with different talent builds.Wear gears that you feel that is functional and suits your fashion sense.Try things that others generally consider not to be the norm. Be yourself! You don’t have to conform with what the public think to be what is right, but be open to things that are proven to be practical and beneficial. We learn in life through experience may it be good or bad. Such circumstance also happens when we play as our priest. Take note that we are the most versatile healer role that we can portray.Only then you could learn and truly understand what a priest is capable of. If you don’t know yourself then how would you present yourself to others?

“Instead of going over each tier, I want to spend time going over the “Why I chose X” and “Why I skipped Y” instead of going over some of the more obvious choices that are obvious choices. Elitist Jerks’ Holy Compendium does have two specs that are viable; however I do feel that some of those talents points could be better used elsewhere in the Tree.”
I salute you with your constructive and broadminded way of thinking!

By: Bromide

Bromide — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:21:12 +0000

Just to add that I am a huge fan of SoR – have it glyphed as well.
I have now twice been witness to a rather dramatic “raid save” down to this talent alone.
I’m starting to get good at “tactical faceplanting” when I run dry and it’s near the end of the encounter

Look at it for what it is. If it’s near the end of an encounter – when glyphed you get 16 seconds to output maximum HPS without having to worry about mana, your positioning or your own HP. Surely that’s worth a talent point?

By: HDPriest

HDPriest — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:32:33 +0000

I’ve asked this on some other sites but wanted to see what you thought. I know Desperate Prayer is getting buffed next patch (when it will most likely be back in my tree…I’m so addicted to self-heal talents) but right now it’s more like Pathetic Whimper. It hits for so little. I do get insane uptime on Blessed Resilience though, and that’s an extra 30% selfhealing. So that Binding Heal just became like a Greater Heal on yourself much faster plus stacking Serendipity and the main target heal. I’m considering finding room for SoL too, but when I tried it last I had the worst luck with it. It seemed to only proc when I needed it least, so I took those talents, moved them to BR and haven’t looked back…until I see every Priest I respect not taking it. In my (albeit limited so far this xpac) experience, BR is there when I need it and I see it helping me stay alive. What do you guys think? After reading this, I’m considering dropping the Renew talents and taking both, but with the long GCD we have now and Chakra: Sanctuary making Renew more worthwhile in between PoH, CoH, and PoM during heavy AoE (no, not spamming it, but hitting a few of the lowest-health members waiting on glyph to run its course). I’m starting to second-guess all my talents lol. My guild focuses on 10man raiding if that helps at all. Thank you for any response.

By: Zane

Zane — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:40:21 +0000

disregard this post. I have just crunched the numbers. You are in fact right that the renew talent tree…becomes negligible. It’s not worth the points.

Renew is still very useful using the chakra but you dont need the 3 talent points in the tree to utilize it.

Thanks for pointing this out!