Comments on: Mists of Pandaria: Official Priest Talent Preview (Take 1)

By: Telkwa

Telkwa — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:25:16 +0000

Like the changes, SAY WHAT? Discipline loses 3 major multi-target healing spells. Are you retarded, what is there to like? Discipline will be useless in 5mans and Holy sucks at tank healing. Priests are getting raped.

By: Telkwa

Telkwa — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:07:24 +0000

Discipline is looking like an absolutely useless 5man build now. I hate Blizzard.

By: Morphiend

Morphiend — Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:43:13 +0000

I’m seeing Holy Nova listed under Discipline, learned at lvl 46, it seems? No idea if i’m reading it correctly ;D

By: Disciplíne

Disciplíne — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:59:07 +0000

Well yea I understand that there might be some spells/abilities that might be a great choice to cross into the Talent choices; I’m not so sure that Surge of Light would rise to the level of notoriety that Power Infusion does; and I guess that’s my point. The average wow player(non-priest), even some; dare I say “end game” raiders would not even know what Surge of light is, and what Spec it was. But I’m pretty sure that most Raiders know about Power Infusion, and would be like: “Oh yea that’s a Discipline spec spell”. I might be thinking of the history and heritage of the Holy and Discipline trees. When I think of Holy I think of: Guardian Spirit, Circle of healing, Lightwell and Chakra. For Discipline: PW:S, Pain Suppression, Power Infusion, and PW:B. I Feel that PI is just unique to Discipline, and I’d Feel the same was if they made something like CoH, or Chakra a Talent choice. And Yes, I agree, I don’t see how they would allow PI to be castable on an ally, if it remains a talent choice. I guess it could change, it’s fun to speculate now, I guess we’ll wait and see…

By: Derevka

Derevka — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:06:40 +0000

On one hand, I can see how it feels like a Disc ‘signature ability’ is being doled out to all 3 classes as an option. But you could say the same for a number of others: as you said, body and soul, but to a lesser extent “Surge of Light” as well (or under its new name From Darkness, Comes Light). However, this is true for a number of other classes: Mages- Presence of Mind. Druids- Typhoon. There are others.

That said, I don’t think its bad, per say, to have it be an option. (Albeit its the most obvious choice in that tier for Raiding Healing Priests, IMO).

I would not be surprised if, before Beta goes live, we see PI modified so its more like Arcane Power and is self-buff only. Otherwise, you could see PI become the DK Hysteria of MOP where you stack it on the best person (Hyperbole: Force SP’s to buff Arcane Mages with it, for example) Again… speculation.

It COULD be interesting if there was a Spec/Specific version of PI. (ie Holy provided 20% X and Y, Shadow Provided 20% X and Y, etc…)

I guess I’m not too worried about it. Hmmmm.

By: Disciplíne

Disciplíne — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:38:32 +0000

One spell/ability that was kind of “glazed over/omitted” here, and that I’m not too sure how I feel about it yet, is; Power Infusion. (it’s currently integrated into the Talent Choices) Any priest can learn/use it. I tend to have a fondness for Discipline, but I’m trying to be objective here; it just seems that a “signature ability” of the Discipline tree is being homogenized.
Yes I’m sure someone may point out some other minor comparisons, like Body and Soul, for example. but If you’ve been playing WoW since Vanilla, Power Infusion has been a trademark discipline ability. It just feels, Like somethings not right about that.
Thoughts?

By: issi

issi — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:57:10 +0000

Overall i like the new changes, but sometimes i wounder how Blizzard thinks, time will let us know.
But what i really hope they have messed up/forgot about is Divine hymn, as you said “Divine Hymn is currently Holy Only; though without Heavenly Voice we could be back to ground zero with it”.
I am so thrilled about holys new and first 3min CD, i love holy, but the lack of a 3min CD made me go disc for our 10man FL hc progress, blah. so in 4.3 we finally get it.. And in MoP they take it away from us? =(

By: Derevka

Derevka — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:48:36 +0000

I concur; but speculation is tricky like that. Which is why I was so hesitant to click publish on this post. Will GH really be a 3 second cast? Unlikely.

Im not sure if I can buy your logic regarding the PWS equalization; particularly since no one (SHOULD) is mass spamming PWS anymore.

Until we see the tooltips updated and more information released, speculation is just that… speculation.

By: Tomaj

Tomaj — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:43:29 +0000

It is, but even so. There’s a little more balance in terms of relative power compared to right now (at least, in straight throughput terms). I have some concerns, which I’ve posted in various places through the healer forums, but I don’t want to be too long-winded here. In the same regard as Disc not getting Enlightenment, Holy also doesn’t get the increased healing, either (and let’s be honest – they were imbalanced relative to each other).

By: Suzushiiro

Suzushiiro — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:43:09 +0000

I would imagine that pretty much every talent that augments a spell that only that spec uses/gets anyway (ie Heavenly Voice and Divine Fury) is just being merged into the base spell, and they just haven’t gotten around to doing it for everything yet. Over on the Druid side, Regrowth gets both the major glyph and Nature’s Bounty effec baseline, for example.

The absorb amounts of PW:S for Holy and Disc coming closer together actually makes sense, though, since Holy won’t have access to spammable bubbles anymore and that’s probably the main reason why they’d be hesitant to do it. Overall the philosophy here seems to be “if we don’t want your spec using it, we won’t make it baseline, gimp it, then give the other spec(s) something to un-gimp it, we just won’t fucking give it to you.”