Comments on: Discipline Secondary Stats and Priority

By: Sweethang

Sweethang — Sun, 13 May 2012 03:42:28 +0000

Hey, I was one of those “stack mastery” priests until recently. Right now I am running with 16% haste, 17.70 mastery, and 15.70 crit all unbuffed. I changed to reforging out of spirit and into mastery as I found myself being able to not worry about mana regin. So losing spirit will allow me to unlock those back stats that are more needed and just manage my mana more so. I do not disagree here but think its more of a happy medium as was mentioned into your play style. Crit is rng and haste/mastery are direct result stats. I think that crit will increase your healing but also think that having the haste along with the mastery to buff your absorbs out weights crit. Granted this is my personal opinion and always down for someone to show me why im either wrong or why a change will create more of a benifit. We all will never play the exact same but change is not bad either.

I really loved reading what everyone posted and will take a lot into consideration when playing and specing my priest.

By: Phalkon

Phalkon — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 14:53:48 +0000

Hey man! Thanks a lot for the post. My guild just downed Heroic Yorsahj 10 man last night with quite some ease. I am one of the guild leaders and recently have been trying to research a lot about trying to make myself as well as our Holy Paladin and Resto Shaman better as well.

Yesterday I spent some time reading up on Resto Shaman and why they are good for tank Healing on Yor’sahj (our Holy Paladin went DPS). So we spent time increasing his mastery and such.

After the fight and looking at the logs I realized a couple of things.

1). I definitely did not use PW:S every 12s for Rapture(recently got Heart of Unliving, and definitely need to practice keeping it up more between oozes)
2). My msot used heal was greater heal (even though I felt it didnt help as much as I wanted it to during Purple oozes, and there were times I had mana problems because of weak Greater Heals draining my mana.)

I think its worth mentioning that pretty much all through Normal Mode DS I was Holy because we were three healing everything, and I felt my raid healing throughput was awesome.

However, recently in Heroics, I have tried Disc and Holy on Morchok and Yor’sahj (favoring Holy in Morchok because I feel my Divine Hymn is more usable as opposed to a barrier that my group may not be able to stack under because they have to move to a crystal. And favoring Disc for Yor’sahj because barrier is awesome here as well as my Divine Ageis.)

I had been reading a lot of Haste Vs Mastery, with the occassional Haste and Crit over mastery threads, but until last night I never thought much about Crit.

After reading this post, I definitely am excited about healing Heroic Ultraxion and trying Haste/Crit>Mastery.

Here is my Armory, if I can get any suggestions about anything I would greatly appreciate it. Also below is a link to our recent logs as well.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kilrogg/Phalkon/simple

http://worldoflogs.com/guilds/168015/

Thanks again for info!

By: Leviel

Leviel — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:54:13 +0000

This post is fantastic, I’m still in the process of leveling my disc priest and I was wondering which stats were key here. Thanks so much for all your helpful blogposts Derevka!

By: Kiria

Kiria — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:28:02 +0000

Hey Derevka

Thanks for your point of view! The exchange with other priests helps not to stiffen and to be up to date.

Due to the fact that my gear is for both healing specs I try to keep haste and mastery in balance but with the next ID I will reforge to more haste and hope this will work without andy mana issues. Or do I overlooked something important?

By: Verityhygeia

Verityhygeia — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:34:19 +0000

Hi! Thanks for the post! I tried reforging all my mastery to haste and crit this week and it appears to have improved my performance overall from the previous week where I was balancing all 3 stats.

Following the conversations with Affinitii here and on MMO Champion, I take it that Simcraft is a good tool in theorycrafting? I plan on playing with it when I get some spare time this weekend. My question is, what tools and resources are good for someone looking to get a deeper understanding of priest theorycrafting?

By: rikapi

rikapi — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:35:46 +0000

I had a crit >= mas > haste build in 4.2, which worked pretty well for me in Firelands with my role of “assist holy pally in tank heals, and throw out raid healing as needed during heavy AoE damage” asking me to do more single-target healing (and therefore could weave enough PWS such that BT was enough haste for most occasions).

Along comes 4.3 and stack’n'heal fights.
I found myself struggling to keep up with the others, and felt like something was seriously wrong… so I consulted the guild’s healing officer, who pointed me here.

Yesterday, after a Fall of Deathwing LFR, I reforged into a haste > crit >= mas build (and respecced back into Darkness, which I had tossed out for Mental Agility)… and ran the same LFR again.
I immediately saw a 4-5k increase in HPS, though I took that with a grain of salt as the first LFR was with my geared healing guildies, and the second was a pug with ungeared healers.
Today, in guild 25N raiding, I noticed my HPS was on average roughly 2k higher than last week’s, with less of a sense of throwing out the kitchen sink just to keep up.
I even found myself sneaking onto the WoL top 200 disc list for Spine 25N – and that fight was the one I felt the most helpless during last week’s run!
I still felt slightly OOM, but I’m thinking it’s because of my ~1600 spirit (before I reforged I was sitting around 1450!) so my next step is to find the “happy medium” spirit for my playstyle.

I’m still not topping the guild healing charts (I don’t think I ever will), but I’m feeling a lot better about disc healing than a week ago – so a big thanks to Derevka!

By: Pawe

Pawe — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:05:40 +0000

Hey, nice post.
Just wondering if you would recommend the +50haste enchant on gloves over the 65 mastery? Would check what your using however i can’t seem to connect to your armoury :/

By: Hamacus

Hamacus — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:18:27 +0000

I changed to a high haste build followed by crit and mastery mid Firelands and have not looked back since. It seems to fit my play style and group composition and also allows me to meet and beat any situation that I am faced with.

Keep up the good work Derevka! Continue to love the site.

By: V

Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:32:35 +0000

ty ty ty all of you! this has been something I’ve been struggling with. Each week I’ve been testing out new stat combos. The heal comp that we are running now it seems better to have more haste. Most of the time tho I’m running holy but disc is my fav.

By: jackie

jackie — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:49:15 +0000

I have always reforged Crit to mastery on most available pieces. OR Crit to Haste where mastery already exists.

I also do NOT always go for pieces with spirit on them – if your gonna reforge out the spirit whats the point ? why not pick up a piece without spirit but has crit and haste on it. Thats my thinking.

Raid buffed I sit at above 20% haste [with sp etc]
Mana 169k
Crit is around 18% I think [with moonkin]
Mastery is about 15% give or take.

I am very happy with my stats – I get some nice big PW:S but plenty of haste to have quick PoH/GH.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ghostlands/Jackiebane/advanced