I think there are valid arguments in favor of active mana regen mechanics vs flat 50% spirit regen. I could see us getting a smarter version of this that works very much like how Enlightenment works/worked for Shadow priests. Cause rapture to proc when some combo of other abilities was used (not on expiration, on use), such as proc’ing a DA on a target with Weakened Soul or Grace. Then it wouldn’t have to be tied to a single healer either. Could even have it scale a percentage of Spirit regen based on size of DA, to make up for anything lost via overheal.

I am not a fan of Beta Rapture ( or even live Rapture, much ) for the same reason I am not a fan of a lot of weapon enchants and trinkets, and I prefer Haste over Crit any time I can get it. I do not like leaving my DPS/Regen/Avoidance up to luck. Obviously, as we get better geared tanks, there is an increasing chance of a lucky streak for evasion and blocks, which increases that chance we won’t see Rapture return any mana at all.

Bearing that in mind, and that it seems likely that without a change we will be stuck at 25% Meditation regen, I wonder about slightly different ways to leave the mechanic in game, and still allow us to be competitive for regen?

Since PW:S is now on 6 second CD, we can’t shield spam like we used to. Why not have Rapture function as it currently does, but also allow that 10% (or 15? maybe 20?) of the damage absorbed is returned to the Priest as mana? This could even allow for Rapture to return less than the 150% of Spirit when PW:S breaks, but still not cripple the Priest when and if it doesn’t. And since we can’t shield spam, we shouldn’t be drowning in extra mana over other classes by putting this on the group and having them stand in the fire, for example.

I’m still just not seeing the connect here as to why Discipline has to be put through this.

I completely agree with your post. I don’t understand how people would argue an active Mechanic would require “Skill” to use. Well – it doesn’t.

It just requires you to track PW:S Cooldown, Weakened Soul Debuff, Rapture Cooldown (which can only be tracked with addons) AND DI Procs in order to get Mana Reg (at the costs of Mana expense – which can make a HUGE difference in low incoming DPS phases)

So we’re talking of tracking FOUR types of Cooldowns/Procs just for the sake of getting back what used to be passive Base regen.

I can’t see any form of “Skill” in that. Not even remotely. It’s just adding more and more UI Elements to keep track of while maintaining something that comes close to a “FCFS-Rotation”.

Plus it requires you to use what used to be an “emergency Heal” and therefore now is even on a cooldown at an extremely high frequence just for the sake of getting Mana back – thus not only negating it’s primary function in the first place but seriously limiting it’s additional useage.

rather make it work on shield I would rather have it work on penance that proc rapture if weakend soul is on target or something like ” Everytime you hit with penance on a WS target you restore 50% of your spirit ) consider the penance CD and is a spell you shulde cast very often for it’s cheap cost and effecient, yet keep a uniqe way of regen

I am on other hand hate the passive % spirit only regen that Hpriest have as it feels less rewarding to play and daunting, it is simpler but rather boring way.

As to active management, I find TC on the shaman to feel very interactive. Meleeing them with my weapon feels active on my pally but melee range can be a pain. Rapture is dynamic and you can be proactive but doing something now for a 12-second payoff doesn’t quite have as active of a feeling for me.