Comments on: Holy Word: Sanctuary – Scaling in Mists of Pandaria

By: Derevka

Derevka — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:55:30 +0000

Updated to latest build with 30 sec duration.

By: Derevka

Derevka — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:58:57 +0000

No change really. What makes you say that.

They changed the way it works on the Character Sheet…

By: Jesinta

Jesinta — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:48:15 +0000

The other problem I have with Sanc is that it is 18 second duration – really how often can people stick together for that long?

Holy is really missing throughput increasing tools á la Divine Favour, AW, Ascendance so please thurn this into a powerful 1 min CD that has a short duration.

By: Jesinta

Jesinta — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:45:31 +0000

I wouldn’t mind seeing this as a 1 min CD that lasts 10 seconds but actuallys heals people rather than tickle their feet.

Also, if this is another spell that doesn’t interact with Mastery, how come our mastery gain is the least of all – 1.5% for Paladins, 1.5% for Druids. We get 1.25% (as a HOT of all things!) improved throughput for 600? Mastery rating on some spells vs Paladins getting 1.5% as a Shield! on some spells and Druids turn that into just passive 1.5% on all spells (practically passively at this point now Harmony is 20 secs).

I know we also get 10% throughput from EOL baseline, but that just means that come T16 all our Mastery is giving us so much less in the form of a HOT!!!! compared to other healers.

By: clra2

clra2 — Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:32:26 +0000

So with the low throughput and high cd on HW: Sanc, do you think it’s just an oversight by Blizzard? Also without Tome of Light won’t all HW spells have a ridiculous cd? I think it’ll probably change before MoP is released to be something like what it is on live without 4p t13 and scale with haste. If not I will be highly disappointed as HW: Sanc is one of the coolest spells in the priest spellbook (especially with the awesome animation it has ). From reading the beta notes, I think Blizzard has been focusing on Shadow and Disc changes more than Holy.

Also did they change Holy mastery? I don’t remember reading anything regarding mastery but I could be wrong.

By: Felade

Felade — Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:22:57 +0000

My issue with this spell is that it is still so hard to get decent healing out of it in a 10 man except in the most stack-friendly situations, and that our healing is balanced around the throughput we get from this spell…throughput we don’t see a benefit from in 10 mans quite as much.

By: Derevka

Derevka — Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:45:08 +0000

With exception that HR’s HPM is better than that of Sanc…. especially after you layer in haste/mastery scaling- after layering that it, it actually becomes substantially different. I don’t want to turn this into a pissing contest over HR vs Sanc (though Sanc is pitifully weak; especially in comparison). My main concerns are related to long term scaling and Tome of Lights absence.

By: jdh

jdh — Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:43:55 +0000

Remember that while Healing Rain can have near 100% uptime, it is so mana prohibitive relative to Shaman regen that you’re unlikely to see it used with anywhere near the uptime that you see in DS.

I actually feel the same way in raid testing about Healing Rain that you do about HW: Sanctuary; it is generally not worth casting unless you have excess mana and the raid is heavily stacked.